Pretty close. We used to be closer before we all grew up and got lives of our own. But we're still pretty close. I should get down to Chicago to see them more often than I do... back home.

Sorta think that happens though, don't it? We all get so busy with what we're doin' we don't have time to see people we care 'bout.

Yeah. It's true. [He smirks.] My mom wishes it weren't though.

[That makes Rose laugh a bit.]

My mum is always goin' on 'bout how I don't visit enough or ring her up enough. Definitely think that's a mum sorta thing to do.

[He's grinning now, and nodding.] All the good ones are made out of the same stuff.

Yeah and scary stuff at that.